PICKERINGTON CITY COUNCIL

TUESDAY, AUGUST 21, 2007

 

COUNCIL WORK SESSION

 

6:00 P.M.

 

1.         CALL TO ORDER:  Mr. Smith opened the Council Work Session at 6:00 P.M., with the following council members present:  Mrs. Riggs, Mr. Fix, Mr. Smith, Mr. Hackworth, Mrs. Hammond, Mr. Sabatino, and Mr. Wisniewski.  Others present were:  Judy Gilleland, Lynda Yartin, Linda Fersch, Phil Hartmann, Brian Sauer, and others. 

 

2.         SCHEDULED MATTERS:

 

            A.         Discussion regarding proposed revisions to Administrative Code.  Mr. Smith stated this work session was called for the purpose of continuing the review of the proposed revisions to the Administrative Code.  He stated the review would begin with Section 220.05, Schedule of Council Affairs; Responsibility of Clerk.  Mr. Sabatino stated at the last work session some concerns were expressed regarding things that might be in conflict with the Charter and Mr. Hartmann was going to check on those.  Mr. Hartmann stated when he looked through the draft he did not see any conflicts to the charter.  Mr. Smith verified that everyone had received a copy of the draft Administrative Code with the changes that have been recommended to date.  Mr. Sabatino stated in 220.05 a change had been recommended to add language that the Clerk would provide information to Council members at no charge, and Mr. Hartmann stated a new Section had been added later in the Code to reflect duties of the Clerk and that had been added in that section. 

 

Mr. Smith clarified that in Section 220.06, Council Meetings.  Mr. Hackworth stated he felt the wording in this appeared that we would meet only once a month.  Mr. Smith stated he agreed with Mr. Hackworth and he felt it should read that Council normally met on the first and third Tuesdays.  Mr. Smith stated in his experience we normally only cancel the first meeting in July and Mr. Sabatino stated that is not always cancelled, it is sometimes rescheduled.  Mr. Smith stated he felt it should just document our normal practice of meeting on the first and third Tuesdays.  Mr. Sabatino stated he did not see rewriting the section if there was no need.  Mr. Fix stated he felt the word “shall” could be replaced with “normally” and then it would be correct.  Mr. Hartmann stated he would prepare new language for this section.  Mr. Wisniewski stated with regard to cancellation of meetings, he felt the power to cancel a meeting should be by the majority of council and not the Mayor.  Mr. Hackworth clarified the section requiring all regular and special meetings be held at 7:30 p.m. was being removed in order to allow for flexibility. 

 

Section 220.07, Agenda.  Mr. Smith stated most of the changes recommended were to reflect how things are actually done.   Mr. Sabatino clarified that if something needed to be added to the agenda after the 5:00 p.m. deadline, this change would allow that to happen.  In the order of business on the agenda, in Community Comments, Mr. Smith stated he felt it should reflect that comments may be limited by the Mayor or presiding officer because sometimes the Mayor is not present.  Mrs. Hammond stated she was not sure we should remove the time limit, and Mr. Fix stated it did not remove the time limit, just left the option of enforcing it.  Mrs. Hammond stated she still felt a time limit should be included because there could be times when the presiding officer would let people talk about an issue that he was in favor of, but limit those who were against that issue.  Mrs. Riggs stated the way it is written now we have flexibility because it states the time “may” be limited.  Mr. Sabatino stated he did not feel there should be a time limit at all.  Mr. Hackworth stated he did not agree with that because the purpose of the meeting is to conduct the City’s business, it is not to allow people to talk forever.  He stated if people talk for five or ten minutes, that is fine, but there should be the capability of limiting it.  Mr. Wisniewski stated he agreed, he did not want someone to come in and filibuster.  Mr. Hackworth stated he agreed with removing the language that the Mayor limits the time and changing it to presiding officer.  Mr. Hackworth inquired how we handled someone who wanted to make a long presentation to Council, and Mr. Smith stated that is normally listed as an agenda item and not handled under community comments.  Mrs. Hammond stated on issues where there is strong public feeling, a public hearing should be scheduled for that specific issue and not handle the discussion under community comments.  Mr. Smith stated then the consensus is to leave this item as recommended, just replacing the “by the Mayor” with “by the presiding officer.”  Ms Gilleland stated we do not use the Communications section, however, that could be used by council members to comment on letters or e-mails they have received or whatever.  Ms Gilleland stated this could be changed to “Council Communications” and could be at the end of the meeting.  Mr. Sabatino stated a lot of times Council wants to comment on items that are coming up on the agenda.  Mr. Wisniewski stated he concurred, he would like this left at this point in the agenda and changed to Council Communications.  Mr. Smith stated Referral to Committee has been added to the agenda, and Ms Gilleland stated if anyone wants to bring legislation up on the floor, this provides a vehicle to do that and it can be referred to a Committee at that time.  Mr. Sabatino stated Other Business and Motions are not included, and Mr. Hartmann stated it would be a good idea to add those items in as we do use them on the agenda.  Mr. Hartmann stated Discussion is not used and is basically the same as the Council Communication added in earlier and the Other Business item so could be removed.   Ms Gilleland pointed out the order of the agenda is directory in nature.  Mr. Sabatino questioned if there was a way the legislation did not have to be read after the suspension of rules has been voted on.  Ms Gilleland stated three readings are required by the Charter.  Mr. Smith stated in his research of how other Councils in Ohio do this, if you do three readings, the only full reading was the third reading.  Mrs. Riggs stated Mr. Hartmann had talked about that.  Mr. Hartmann stated that was correct, very few councils do vote on a first and second reading.  Mr. Sabatino clarified that even if there are three readings, very few councils vote until the third reading.  Mr. Smith stated the purpose of the first two readings are more or less public notice.  Mr. Wisniewski stated he would rather leave it the way it is because something could fail on the first or second reading.  Mr. Hackworth stated by waiting until the third reading to vote, when the public reads about what is going on they don’t understand the issue.  Mr. Sabatino state also they did not know where council stood on issues without having the vote.  Mr. Wisniewski stated that was not going to be changed, and Mr. Hartmann stated without changing that, he did not see how three readings could be avoided.  Mr. Wisniewski stated he was speaking to having the three readings after the suspension of the rules has been passed.  Mr. Hartmann stated the Charter requires the third reading, but this is something that everyone can think about and perhaps some changes in this procedure can be recommended when the Charter review is done.      

 

In Section 220.09, Legislation, Mr. Smith the change has been made to reflect the name of the referring committee rather than an individual sponsor.  Mr. Hackworth stated he still felt an ordinance could be placed on the agenda and have two readings prior to a committee ever reviewing it because you need the committee waiver prior to the third reading.  Mr. Hartmann stated the sponsorship of an ordinance is totally different than someone proposing legislation.  Mr. Hartmann stated the Charter states any member of council or the Mayor may introduce legislation, but that doesn’t have anything to do with a sponsor.  Mr. Hackworth stated he just didn’t want to make it harder for anyone to introduce legislation and Mr. Hartmann stated with the proposed changes it would probably be easier. 

 

Mr. Smith stated on Mayoral proclamations they always read “with the consent of Council” and he questioned how that consent was reached.  He stated he always hears that read and generally that is the first time Council is hearing about it.  Mr. Sabatino clarified those proclamations come out of the Mayor’s office.  Mrs. Riggs stated that language could just be removed from the proclamation, and Mrs. Hammond stated she concurred it could just read it was presented “on behalf of the City” or something.  Mrs. Yartin stated she would talk to the Mayor’s office and ensure that language removed from proclamations. 

 

With regard to ordinances and resolutions that are placed on the Table, Mr. Wisniewski  stated he would recommend the time limit for remaining on the table be changed to six months instead of twelve.  Mr. Fix stated he thought that was a good idea because if we can’t resolve it in six months it should be removed.  All council members concurred with the recommended change. 

 

Mr. Smith stated unless there were other comments he would recommend the work session close at this time and at the next work session begin with Section 220.10. 

 

3.         ADJOURNMENT.  There being nothing further, the Council Work Session closed at 7:15 P.M., August 21, 2007. 

 

RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:

 

 

 

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Lynda D. Yartin, Municipal Clerk

 

ATTEST:

 

 

 

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Keith Smith, Council President Pro Tempore