FINANCE COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL
CITY
HALL,
REGULAR
MEETING
7:00
P.M.
1. ROLL CALL. Mr. Blair
called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M., with roll call as follows: Mr. Blair, Mrs. Hammond, Mr. Barletta, Mr.
Fix, Mr. Sauer, and Mrs. Sanders were present.
Mr. Wisniewski was absent as he was out of town on business. Others present were Mayor O’Brien, Bill
Vance, Lynda Yartin,
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF December 8, 2010, Regular Meeting. Mr. Fix moved to approve; Mrs. Hammond seconded the motion. Roll call was taken with Mrs. Hammond, Mr. Fix, Mr. Blair, Mr. Barletta, Mr. Sauer, and Mrs. Sanders voting “Yes.” Motion passed, 6-0.
3. Discussion with Governing Dynamics
regarding
Mr. Sauer
stated he also had an idea of a continuing flow of information coming from the
elected officials and some of the decisions being made by the Finance Committee
with regard to efficiencies in spending, different priorities they may see and
possible tax issues down the road. He
stated he would like to know what the best avenue for getting that information
out to the public would be; would it be a press release or what? Mr. Sciotto stated
they had held a training session so the staff could do that type of thing and a
communications calendar was prepared that can do regular on-going kinds of
messages from the City, and as he understood it, Mr. Sauer was referring to
specialized communication focused on the financial side and as you move forward
communicating specifically on finances will be critical on building a case to
either increase taxes, to change the services provided or the level of services
provided. Mrs. Sanders stated she felt
that in the year or so there will be a lot of negative financial information
put out regarding the schools with their budget coming in with such problems,
and if we focus on the positives it will help the community feel a little more
at ease about what we are doing. Mr.
Sauer stated he was just trying to find what the mechanism was to make sure
that occurred. Mr. Sciotto
stated in the message calendar some of those points Mr. Sauer mentioned were
included, and it is now how those messages are tailored, both to reinforce the
successes you have but also to address the challenges. He stated the caution he would have is that
you cannot lead the citizens to believe that things can remain the same
indefinitely without some change in priorities or change in funding. He stated you also want to provide an
accurate picture and make sure that picture is being seen by the average
citizen. Mayor O’Brien stated we are
coming up on the State of the City information and this year he plans to do a
video State of the City and put it on the web site for people to watch and he
is open to any suggestions for this. Mr.
Barletta stated he reads the Mayor’s Bulletin every month and there is a lot of
information contained in that and Mayor O’Brien stated anyone who wishes to
contribute to the Bulletin is welcome to do so.
Mr. Barletta further stated he felt having a vision for the future on
what the residents want out of their parks and recreation department was also
important and he hoped those kind of questions could be incorporated into the
survey. Mr. Sciotto
stated the City would be in control of the final survey device and he would
work with everyone to figure out what those questions need to be. He stated it was his job to make sure that
those questions were as powerful and as useful as possible. Mr. Vance stated he felt it has become
apparent to everyone involved that the City is at a financial crossroads as
associated with a couple of our biggest costs, and one of our biggest costs is
the provision of public safety with the next biggest cost an active road
maintenance program. Mr. Vance stated
this year’s budget has $20,000 for road maintenance and he felt everyone would
agree that is inadequate and we cannot continue to do that on an annual basis
and have the condition of our roads remain very good as we go through the next
few years. Mr. Vance further stated this
is the sixth year Chief Taylor has not had an additional officer and he felt we
need to bring someone in to verify whether or not that is appropriate based
upon getting feedback from the citizens as to what level of service they will
expect from the City and then putting a price tag on that. He continued that at some point in time it is
his understanding we will go to a referendum and get feedback from the citizens
as to what level of service they are willing to pay for. He stated then this
Mr. Fix stated this is the first step in the process as we need to know where we stand today and then we can chart the course from there so he felt we need to do this. Mrs. Hammond stated she felt there could be other ways to find out the same information and she was not really in favor of surveys. Mr. Blair stated he would oppose this tonight, and that he is not against what Governing Dynamics has provided so far, but he would vote against appropriating money for the survey. Mr. Sauer stated he felt Governing Dynamics has always done good work for the City and he is fine with the survey proposal. Mr. Sauer stated since this money was appropriated in 2010 and this is a new year, he would assume it would need to be reappropriated, Mr. Schornack stated that was correct. Mr. Fix moved to appropriate not to exceed $12,000 for the survey to be conducted by Governing Dynamics; Mrs. Sanders seconded the motion. Roll call was taken with Mrs. Hammond and Mr. Blair voting “No,” and Mrs. Sanders, Mr. Sauer, Mr. Fix, and Mr. Barletta voting “Yes.” Motion passed, 4-2.
4. FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
A. Finance Director’s Report. Mr. Schornack stated he had provided a written report and we had good news last week with our Note and Bond sale. He stated we received six bids on each of our two items and the Bond came in at 2.95 percent and the Notes came in at 5.9 percent interest. Mr. Schornack stated he had also provided the 2010 final report and our General Fund ending balance came in at about $2.7 million which is up about $300,000 from 2009. Mr. Sauer clarified that by getting that interest rate on the Bonds we will save approximately $200,000. Mr. Fix stated it appeared there is a 37 percent carryover and questioned how this would impact the projected carryover for 2011. Mr. Schornack stated we anticipated a $1.5 million carryover and we are about $500,000 higher than that assuming we receive the revenues and do not spend all the operations. Mr. Fix stated then since there is $500,000 more than anticipated would it be wise to have a conversation at the next Finance Committee meeting about spending some of that $500,000 on some of the things that were set aside at the end of the year, such as paving and police. Mr. Sauer stated he would request Mrs. Yartin add that to the agenda for the next meeting. Mr. Fix stated he would like staff to work to come up with some proposals as well. Mr. Blair stated he would request Mr. Schornack also factor in things like the Local Government Funds being completely cut out, and Mr. Schornack stated there was also discussion on losing the estate taxes. Mr. Schornack stated we normally receive about $300,000 in Local Government monies and he had budgeted roughly $30,000 on estate tax. Mr. Fix inquired if the Local Government Fund was already funded for 2011 and Mr. Schornack stated we receive funds every month so he would recommend caution until the funds are actually received. Mr. Fix stated he would request someone find out if there is a chance that our government funding might be cut this year and Mr. Blair stated he would work with Mr. Schornack on that.
B. Review and request for motion to approve draft ordinance amending the 2010 appropriation, Ordinance 2009-91. Mr. Schornack stated he had no appropriation requests this evening.
C. Review and discussion regarding Performance Audit of Police Department. Mr. Vance stated Mr. Schornack had received a proposal from the State Auditor’s office and it appears to be a cost analysis or a comparison as to how much our police department costs versus costs of public safety in other like sized municipalities. Mr. Schornack stated a Performance Audit would be an analysis of us versus cities of like demographics and size. Mrs. Sanders questioned if the survey and the performance audit would come in at the same time. Mr. Schornack stated the State is looking into doing Performance Audits for their State divisions, so they could lose a lot of their staff to that and it could push us back into next year if we do not schedule ours soon. Mr. Fix stated then we should do it now or perhaps wait a year. Mr. Vance stated that is only based upon if we went with the State Auditor’s Office, but we have other options. He stated Chief Taylor had investigated an option using people with a police background, either professional or educational experience in public safety, and with a total cost of between $7,000 to $8,000. Mr. Vance continued this would not be as much a fiscal comparison between us and other comparable municipalities and it would depend on the feedback from the citizens as to which direction this council might want to go. Would it strictly be a financial matter, is it more to substantiate the level of service and how many additional police officers we will need, how many vehicles they will need, etc. Mr. Fix clarified that Mr. Vance’s recommendation would be to get the results of the survey and have council get together and determine how they want to proceed. Mr. Blair stated he did not see what the survey results would change in the audit and Mr. Fix stated the thought process behind the audit was to compare how we spend our money and the services we get in return for that investment against what other communities are doing. Mr. Fix continued that Chief Taylor has said we have less officers than we should have, and that is great coming from our Chief of Police, but it doesn’t necessarily carry the credibility that it could if that was verified by an outside audit group. Mr. Fix stated he did not see the correlation between a survey of the citizens that asked if they wanted the same services, better, or less. He stated to him these were two different things. Mr. Vance stated an audit can provide a variety of things, and he agreed with Mr. Fix, however, from his perspective it could provide an independent position on substantiating the costs associated with the resources we make available to the Chief. Mr. Vance stated further an individual with a police background could come in and, based upon their experience, provide findings based upon their professional experiences and knowledge. Mr. Fix stated that was correct, but these are two different questions. He stated the first question is how are we doing with the money we have now, and that is what the audit will answer. The second question is, assuming that we are spending the money as wisely as we can, do the citizens want to continue to pay for that or not? Do they want better service? Do they want to pay less and get less service? He stated he felt these were two totally separate questions. Mr. Blair stated he agreed with Mr. Fix and we should go forward with the audit right now and do the survey. Mr. Fix stated the best answer would be that we are spending the money as wisely as we possibly can, we need more officers, and the citizens are willing to pay for it. Mrs. Sanders stated she felt by doing this we would have the “qualifiable” and “quantifiable” data. Mr. Sauer clarified the document before the Committee was the agreed upon scope of the audit and Mr. Schornack stated it was, with the exception that we had requested a fleet maintenance analysis be included. Mr. Schornack stated that was already included in the costs that they provided. Mr. Fix stated the purpose of the audit was to add credibility to what we are going to eventually ask our citizens to do or tell them about how we spend our money. He stated in his opinion the State Auditor is the highest level of audit you could ask for and that is why he would recommend we engage them for the audit. Mr. Schornack stated he would only add that performance audits are only called Performance Audits when they are done by the State Auditor’s Office. He stated anyone else would be doing an analysis of some sort. Mr. Barletta stated he had read the examples of State audits and they contained very valuable information and he felt the State Auditor would do a great job on seeing how we measure up with other communities in how we spend our money. Mrs. Hammond stated if we are going to do an audit, using the State Auditor would provide the most impartial audit that we could do. Mr. Sauer stated he would agree with that as well. Mr. Fix moved to proceed with the Performance Audit of the Police Department by the Auditor of State as outlined in the Letter of Arrangement with the addition of the fleet maintenance analysis; Mr. Blair seconded the motion. Roll call was taken with Mrs. Hammond, Mr. Fix, Mr. Barletta, Mr. Blair, Mrs. Sanders, and Mr. Sauer voting “Yes.” Motion passed, 6-0.
5. HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT.
A. Human Resource Director’s Report. Mrs. Miller stated she had provided a report on personnel activities from the first of the year. She stated the most significant activities right now are centered around safety and training. Mrs. Miller stated further a Safety Team is being established with members of each department and they will be working to reduce safety exposures and risks at all facilities. Mrs. Miller stated she would be happy to answer any questions.
6. CHAIRMAN:
A. Discussion regarding 2012 Budget Issues/Concerns.
(1) Feedback from
Mr.
Sauer stated his question would be how the selection of the members would be
addressed and Mayor O’Brien stated if it is a Blue Ribbon Panel then
(2) Review of Revenue Enhancement
Timeline. Mrs. Yartin clarified the
timeline would be updated to reflect the creation of a Blue Ribbon Panel in May
by the Mayor, City Manager, and
B. Public Information. Mr. Sauer stated this was discussed earlier and he did not have anything further to add at this time. He stated he would discuss this further with the Mayor and Manager. Mr. Sauer stated his concern was that the residents did not know what was done by this Committee and the decisions that were being made. Mrs. Sanders stated the Mayor’s Bulletin does get a lot of information out to the public as well. Mr. Sauer stated he just wanted to make sure that the message is getting out to the public.
7. OTHER BUSINESS:
A. Review and request for motion to approve
resolution for final legislation for final legislation for PID 86639 – SRTS
(Safe Routes to Schools) sidewalk project within the City of
Mr.
Bachman stated he has been meeting with ODOT on our S.R. 256 safety grant
application and they would like to take the lead on this project. He stated that is significant in that a
safety grant will go to ODOT District 5 and then be recommended on to ODOT
Central Office. He stated if the
District takes the lead on it, obviously we have their approval and that would
carry more weight at the Central Office. Mr. Bachman stated ODOT is also retaining a
consultant to study the traffic signals on S.R. 256, both our ACS light signals
and the signals leading into
B. Review
and discussion regarding commercial advertising on water tower. Mr. Vance stated the question has arisen if
there was the possibility where commercial entities within our City could
approach the
C. Review,
discussion, and request for motion to approve draft ordinance to amend Section
220.07(F) of the Codified Ordinances of Pickerington entitled, “Consent
Agenda.” Mrs. Yartin stated this
ordinance was being presented as a result of the Replacement Charter that was
passed at the November election and became effective on January 1st
of this year. She stated the prior
Charter established that no action that exceeded $10.00 could be placed and the
Consent Agenda and the Replacement Charter provides that
8. MOTIONS:
A. Motion for Executive Session under
Section 121.22(G)(1)b, Matters involving an employee’s or public official’s
employment, Section 121.22(G)(2), Purchase or sale of public property, Section
121.22(G)(3), Conference with law director regarding pending or imminent court
action, and Section 121.22(G)(4), Matters involving bargaining sessions with
public employees. Mr. Sauer stated an
Executive Session was not necessary this evening.
9. ADJOURNMENT. There being nothing further, Mr. Blair moved to adjourn; Mr. Fix seconded the motion. Mr. Blair, Mrs. Hammond, Mr. Barletta, Mr. Fix, Mr. Sauer, and Mrs. Sanders voted "Aye." Motion carried, 6-0. The Finance Committee adjourned at 8:30 P.M., January 18, 2011.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
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